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André
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Zum letzten Mal: Diskutiert eure Streitereien bitte per PN!
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Hallo Gast, falls du dich wunderst, wieso Bilder und Videos nicht mehr sofort angezeigt werden, schau mal hier.
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Nach viel zu langer Zeit ist mal wieder ein Zockertreffen angesagt. Der Termin steht! Sei dabei! Ich will auch!
Pro Evolution Soccer 5
- Ersteller Mächtle
- Erstellt am
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Sephiroth333
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Ist gebongt. Sorry.
Franky
Ludwig van
Original geschrieben von Superfrog
Stimmt, aber am Fehlen von extra provokativen, ziemlich platten Fanboy-Diskussionen liegt's wohl kaum.
Die sind oft spannender als 90% der restlichen Beiträge. Wie: Geile Screens, Schrott, na ja oder einfach nur ständig Smilies. Richtig diskutieren und interessante Topics aufmachen tut fast niemand mehr. Da war ja mein - zugegeben eher langweiliges - NextGen Voting Topic noch ein richtiger Renner.
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Forenuser
Zum Thema Grafik:
Ja in der Tat hat sich grafisch im vergleich zum vorgänger kaum was getan. Heißt aber noch lange nicht dass das spiel schlecht aussieht. Mal davon abgesehen wer das Spiel anhand von screenshots als Müll abtstempelt,der ist entweder ein verbohrter Fifafan oder hat keine Ahnung von Fussballspielen und sollte sich lieber hier zurück halten und sein retrodünnschiss weiterspielen. (bzw. in der vergangenheit leben)
Gameplay ist das Stichwort..und ich denke hier genau müssen wir abwarten.
Schon mal was von KI und Ballphysik gehört? Oder bist du schon so auf die Grafik (als xboxfan!) verbohrt,dass dir die sichtweite fehlt?
Hat es dir Fifa angetan?
Als Unwissender solltest du ganzr ruhig sein..
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André
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Du weißt schon warum ich deinen Beitrag editiert habe.
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André
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Manchmal sollte man sich auch mal an die eigene Nase fassen!
So, ab jetzt keine Provozierungen und Beleidgungen mehr bitte. Es ist wirklich nicht so schwer wie es sich anhört...
![[IMG]](http://sylphys.ddo.jp/upld2nd/game2/src/1119459307568.jpg)
Sieht mal wieder ganz exzellent aus das Spiel, wollen wir mal hoffen das jetzt auch mal wieder etwas am Gameplay bzw. vorallem der Torwart KI und den Passroutinen wie auch der Ballphysik geschraubt wurde, WE8LE war vorallem im 2 Spielermodus teilweise schon fast absurd schlecht, da hat man die genannten Aspekte meiner Meinung nach schon fast überzüchtet was dann zu völlig überzogenen gepasse in die Hacken, merkwürdigsten Bounces etc. geführt hat und der Torhüter war nichts anderes als eine mittelschwere Katastrophe.
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Ich bin der Meinung dass WE8LE bis jetzt der beste WE bzw PES teil ist. Der Spielablauf ist langsamer,schüsse kommen schneller und härter, kein unreastisches gedribbel mehr im strafraum,keine KOnter mit 3 ms und 2 omf..usw. Der Multiplaymodus ist die Krönung des Ganzen... Ich sag es mal so: Ob das Spiel realisisch ist,hängt viel von der Spielweise ab. Bevorzugt einer den realistischen Spielaufbau mit kaum vorhanden Ballverlust,der wird bei WE8le sehr weit kommen. Wenn aber nur stumpfsinning nach vorne gepasst wird ohne jegliche Kontrolle...bzw Konterspiel mit 3 mann,dann ist we8le eindeutig das falsche Spiel. Diese meinung teilen übrigens auch viele andere PES und we fans (siehe evo web forum,pes-4.de..usw)
@Dan
Dieses Jahr wird es keine Sammelbestelleung geben.
Das hat 2 Gründe:
1. Zollkosten
2. Letztes jahr haben nur ca. 4 User von 6 mir die Zollkosten aufs Konto überwiesen. Somit bliebe ich auf den Kosten von 16 EUR sitzen.
Werde es mir über ebay oder play asia bestellen.
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Forenuser
Die letzten Bilder und Infos zusammengefasst:
- Official Wesite : http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/we9/index.html
- First picts :
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7813/111926376919op.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4340/111926376929ia.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/3906/111926376938fy.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/48/111926376940sz.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/1711/111926376960hh.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/9689/111926376973no.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4931/111926376984kv.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/8459/111926376991ik.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/5451/1119263769108ap.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7629/a...498453zb2su.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/8729/eto3sf1uh.jpg
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/4885/img10071459729a6pc.gif
- New Stadiums : "Mestalla - FC Valencia" & "Riazor - Deportivo la Corugna".
- Kits of season 05/06 for Liga and Eredivisie.
- Real font (numbers & names) for licensed teams
- New kits for unlicensed teams
- Shirt outside the short
- new ball : Finale Orange
- different colour Wristbands (Ronaldinho pict)
- Finger tape (Rooney pict)
- Cycling under shorts (Cannavaro pict)
- Official Wesite : http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/we9/index.html
- First picts :
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7813/111926376919op.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4340/111926376929ia.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/3906/111926376938fy.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/48/111926376940sz.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/1711/111926376960hh.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/9689/111926376973no.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4931/111926376984kv.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/8459/111926376991ik.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/5451/1119263769108ap.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7629/a...498453zb2su.jpg
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/8729/eto3sf1uh.jpg
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/4885/img10071459729a6pc.gif
- New Stadiums : "Mestalla - FC Valencia" & "Riazor - Deportivo la Corugna".
- Kits of season 05/06 for Liga and Eredivisie.
- Real font (numbers & names) for licensed teams
- New kits for unlicensed teams
- Shirt outside the short
- new ball : Finale Orange
- different colour Wristbands (Ronaldinho pict)
- Finger tape (Rooney pict)
- Cycling under shorts (Cannavaro pict)
Mächtle
Forenuser
- Nippon Challenge add new national teams like North korea, Barein, Hong Kong etc...
- R2 = new feints (different for few players)
- Camera "Bench" or "Coaching"
- New Players in WE-Shop like : Lalas, Skuhravy, Sutter...
- More skin colors in Edit player
- Cup WWL = 6 teams (like new Intercontinental cup, 6 clubs from 6 continents ??)
- "My Stadium" new option in Master League
- new stat : "Nature" 1 to 5 (5 for agressiv players)[/QUOTE]
- R2 = new feints (different for few players)
- Camera "Bench" or "Coaching"
- New Players in WE-Shop like : Lalas, Skuhravy, Sutter...
- More skin colors in Edit player
- Cup WWL = 6 teams (like new Intercontinental cup, 6 clubs from 6 continents ??)
- "My Stadium" new option in Master League
- new stat : "Nature" 1 to 5 (5 for agressiv players)[/QUOTE]
Mächtle
Forenuser
Famitsu News mit alavist übersetzt:
- The game develops progress 80%.
- Supplements moves leaps the chest to stop the ball the movement, supplements the new header, the plate ball and the bodily resistance and so on some movements.
- Supplements ミ ド ル シ ュ □ト (Middle Shoot, middle distance shoots) the stunt, has this stunt player to pull out nearby the big forbidden area relatively shoots the hit probability to be higher, when these players shoot the rubber ball does not bring to revolve.
- The next bottom passes on the might restoration! The main reason was this does emphatically strengthened the player in the airborne resistance ability, when the former player greeted the long pass, the player header attacked the gate the movement to be very few, but this did supplements many headers movement, jumped airborne in stops the rubber ball with the chest to carry on the following movement the attack way also to become again possibly. But the body tall and strong player can when fights for the rubber ball hit the match.
- This made the operation which shot compared to formerly to establish rigorously, from this subdivided has shot the effect difference which the different operation brought. For example after presses down shoots to pull between, the player from starts to shoots the time to reduce is 1/5 second, but wilfully is being away from, does not carry on according to the tight R2 side shoots, the player surely can shoot by the foot inside.
- Challenge in "Japanese: To 2,006 "the pattern in, supplements many Asian team, the present news pointed out will increase the Hong Kong team.
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Operation aspect: Even if also cannot make SIDE STEP according to R2, also the so-called side moved plays itself had the certain change. Ball point of descent computation more careful, the player is also more accurate regarding the point of descent judgement, like this may make many kinds of processing passes on to the ball the precision to have strengthens, but also must unify snatches the position and the opportunity assurance regarding the biography in defense: Before is so long as you continuously hold down the side quickly, such fullback can automatically seek the point of descent to carry on breaks through, but newly was doing cannot like this, you had own to control defend the team member to carry on snatch the position, therefore guarded against regarding the lob 守更 is difficult. Defensive time can extremely intense shoot easily to hit flies, because shoots in the actual competition the high situation must be many to shoots the leaning situation book to make R2 to select shoots regardless of will be away from far all will be in the instep shoots, since like this even if will be the ability very high contestant very is also easy to hit high.
Movement: This does although the movement also has the increase regarding under player's foot, but that certainly was not key, the main increase movement contacts by the player and the player, dashes throws down and so on the movement increases many. Moreover when capture the lob the movement also increases have been very many! Also has is center the village free kick movement specially is also portrayed. Its free kick in the use different operating mode, will have the high radian and the low radian two kind of different performance.
Increases the stunt: Excels long-range. In this made the change which shot without the rotation to be easy to enter (so-called has not had rotation, after partner's understanding was compared to does not turn around to shoot again facing goal, be sideways also was allowed to get strength in the before WE work, after crosswise took part shoots personally to think was very difficult to enter) the common ordinary player approach to shoot static the rubber ball also to be allowed to have 4 to 5 tenths hit probabilities, if had this stunt to be allowed to achieve (8 to 9 tenths hit probabilities feared, but partner was long-range madman, this hypothesis liked saying!) Moreover if has excels to dribble the stunt the contestant also to be able to have 4 tenth about the hit probability, since like this long-range has changed is extremely fearful (this for Gao Zhongyu) although said has this stunt, but if opposite party defense has oppression not to be able very much casually to score points by the match. (Looked like will play family newly to do even more pays attention to long-range defense) the person which in addition will have the STRIKER stunt easily shoots the ball in the doorframe scope.
Increases some petty actions: Airborne stops the ball movement, fights for the lob the movement, when has the shovel ball the player avoids the movement and so on.
On next generation main engine prospect and change: In the next generation main engine time, the network becomes the subject to the combat general. But the present can firmly mainly be the picture certainly can have very big enhancement next is the AI enhancement, in fact newly is making in WE9, computer AI had the suitable enhancement. Japan even if is competes with Brazil, also may not let opposite party score points. (Is cold. Unconsciously divorceds from reality? Japan resembles cannot achieve? ?) Basically, regarding the rear line control, with enhanced (estimate in defensive aspect computer AI also to have extremely in a big way very plays family to be able to fall handle for this, paid silent tribute) this does although could not achieve in the next generation main engine the computer AI level, but also was is extremely good.
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- Reporter: What first wants to consult Hsiakuan to fight to the network has to change?
- Gao?: The network to the speech which fights, 前半场 and the latter half-court hosts and visitors are in turn
- Reporter: In first makes the main engine (or 主场 is fixed is a side Now is half-court exchanges the hosts and visitors field
- Gao?: Yes, like this can be fairer Except this point, this did also aims at online to make the improvement, basically did not feel has the time delay The network was allowed to use master league to the war pattern competition in the troop
- Reporter: Plays the troop which family raises also to be allowed to use?
- Gao?: Is Before ordinary is unable to the war in to use, from now on will want mutually unifies master league and network
- Reporter: Also has other improvements about the network?
- Gao?: The ball out-of-bounds and enters the ball time, has the information strip prompt The information needs beforehand to register
- Reporter: How do the multi- people play
- Gao?: On a machine may 2 cooperations carry on the game May carry on 2 pairs through the network 2 to fight
- Reporter: Has called the very good friend in the home plays the family through the network and same 2 to fight (smiles) 2 pairs of 2 special-purpose competitions to develop?
- Gao?: Now had not decided under that, very wants to attempt
- Reporter: Operates has the new change?
- Gao?: Does not need according to R2 also to be allowed to change 向侧 runs (or side step moves aside) Other operations all with first do same Plays oneself to have very sweeping change We always hoped ball point of descent computation more precise, the player appears some is clumsy The key is a point of descent computation more precise speech, possibly kicks a more splendid ball, in the biography precision also with the change, a side player responded needs to play the family manually controlled, must grasp the position and the opportunity.
Therefore, such adjustment needs own operation, will feel plays is more free, has the tense feeling
- Reporter: Very good 诶 When the match passes on, the player no longer pursues the ball to run
- Gao?: This aspect operation some changes Before when passes on, presses the block key player on toward to leave the point of descent near place to run then breaks through In this does has already not been suitable Must own positioning
- Reporter: Upper air ball processing changed difficultly
- Gao?: Feared (smiled)
- Reporter: The winning eleven shovel breaks the dribbling all equally very much to attract the person, I think the programmer certainly very diligently in the adjustment?
- Gao?: This is firmly, we are transcribing a careful movement This first supplements is a pair one rocks (movement which hits), the hit, and so on the body contacts when movement Designs these movements actually to have the difficulty, is capacity 2,3 times which the ordinary biography kicks The development group interior also often cracks a joke adds to rock the movement to be inferior to Canadian 3 pass a ball the movement (to smile)
- Reporter: (Smiled) the biography to kick the movement also to change many
- Gao?: Kicks a ball about the biography, this does pays great attention to operational instep passing a ball to kick from the pressed key must spend the about for 1/5 second The ball can spread immediately under foot speech This did on increases in this kind of place has been operational
- Reporter: Shot also to change many
- Gao?: In this does shoots to be able to appear outdoes the gate bar the situation In the actual competition this kind shoots flies hits the high situation many In therefore this makes the subject which shoots to modify for shoots flies (smiles) later to be able to supplement the control to shoot Holds down the R2 savings to shoot the ball which the strength measuring tank projects, 无论多少 is away from all may all be able to kick 99 or the ability excessively high player also has the possibility with this skillful speech strength to kick flies
- Reporter: In the special capability increased middle shoot (middle distance to shoot)
- Gao?: Is Did not turn around to shoot to change easily Does not have the star class also to be allowed to achieve does not turn around to shoot Runs shoots to the relatively static ball, the ordinary player can display 4 to 5 tenths might, but if has middle shoot this special capability the player can display 8 to 9 tenths might If has dash dribble (quickly to run dribbling) this special capability player not to turn around to shoot to be able to have 4 tenths accuracies
- Reporter: This characteristic is ball whereabouts *** (falls ちる - me not to be able to find out any correct view, but also must suit soccer)
- Gao?: Is
- Reporter: The middle distance shot to change terroristly has pinched
- Gao?: Calculated has the special capability, is entangled by opposite party player is very difficult not to turn around to shoot, defensive time needs to pay attention to this point
- Reporter: Other?
- Gao?: East also has not not be to be new east, has shoots the strength outstanding this characteristic player Does not turn around to shoot time possibly shoots
- The game develops progress 80%.
- Supplements moves leaps the chest to stop the ball the movement, supplements the new header, the plate ball and the bodily resistance and so on some movements.
- Supplements ミ ド ル シ ュ □ト (Middle Shoot, middle distance shoots) the stunt, has this stunt player to pull out nearby the big forbidden area relatively shoots the hit probability to be higher, when these players shoot the rubber ball does not bring to revolve.
- The next bottom passes on the might restoration! The main reason was this does emphatically strengthened the player in the airborne resistance ability, when the former player greeted the long pass, the player header attacked the gate the movement to be very few, but this did supplements many headers movement, jumped airborne in stops the rubber ball with the chest to carry on the following movement the attack way also to become again possibly. But the body tall and strong player can when fights for the rubber ball hit the match.
- This made the operation which shot compared to formerly to establish rigorously, from this subdivided has shot the effect difference which the different operation brought. For example after presses down shoots to pull between, the player from starts to shoots the time to reduce is 1/5 second, but wilfully is being away from, does not carry on according to the tight R2 side shoots, the player surely can shoot by the foot inside.
- Challenge in "Japanese: To 2,006 "the pattern in, supplements many Asian team, the present news pointed out will increase the Hong Kong team.
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Operation aspect: Even if also cannot make SIDE STEP according to R2, also the so-called side moved plays itself had the certain change. Ball point of descent computation more careful, the player is also more accurate regarding the point of descent judgement, like this may make many kinds of processing passes on to the ball the precision to have strengthens, but also must unify snatches the position and the opportunity assurance regarding the biography in defense: Before is so long as you continuously hold down the side quickly, such fullback can automatically seek the point of descent to carry on breaks through, but newly was doing cannot like this, you had own to control defend the team member to carry on snatch the position, therefore guarded against regarding the lob 守更 is difficult. Defensive time can extremely intense shoot easily to hit flies, because shoots in the actual competition the high situation must be many to shoots the leaning situation book to make R2 to select shoots regardless of will be away from far all will be in the instep shoots, since like this even if will be the ability very high contestant very is also easy to hit high.
Movement: This does although the movement also has the increase regarding under player's foot, but that certainly was not key, the main increase movement contacts by the player and the player, dashes throws down and so on the movement increases many. Moreover when capture the lob the movement also increases have been very many! Also has is center the village free kick movement specially is also portrayed. Its free kick in the use different operating mode, will have the high radian and the low radian two kind of different performance.
Increases the stunt: Excels long-range. In this made the change which shot without the rotation to be easy to enter (so-called has not had rotation, after partner's understanding was compared to does not turn around to shoot again facing goal, be sideways also was allowed to get strength in the before WE work, after crosswise took part shoots personally to think was very difficult to enter) the common ordinary player approach to shoot static the rubber ball also to be allowed to have 4 to 5 tenths hit probabilities, if had this stunt to be allowed to achieve (8 to 9 tenths hit probabilities feared, but partner was long-range madman, this hypothesis liked saying!) Moreover if has excels to dribble the stunt the contestant also to be able to have 4 tenth about the hit probability, since like this long-range has changed is extremely fearful (this for Gao Zhongyu) although said has this stunt, but if opposite party defense has oppression not to be able very much casually to score points by the match. (Looked like will play family newly to do even more pays attention to long-range defense) the person which in addition will have the STRIKER stunt easily shoots the ball in the doorframe scope.
Increases some petty actions: Airborne stops the ball movement, fights for the lob the movement, when has the shovel ball the player avoids the movement and so on.
On next generation main engine prospect and change: In the next generation main engine time, the network becomes the subject to the combat general. But the present can firmly mainly be the picture certainly can have very big enhancement next is the AI enhancement, in fact newly is making in WE9, computer AI had the suitable enhancement. Japan even if is competes with Brazil, also may not let opposite party score points. (Is cold. Unconsciously divorceds from reality? Japan resembles cannot achieve? ?) Basically, regarding the rear line control, with enhanced (estimate in defensive aspect computer AI also to have extremely in a big way very plays family to be able to fall handle for this, paid silent tribute) this does although could not achieve in the next generation main engine the computer AI level, but also was is extremely good.
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- Reporter: What first wants to consult Hsiakuan to fight to the network has to change?
- Gao?: The network to the speech which fights, 前半场 and the latter half-court hosts and visitors are in turn
- Reporter: In first makes the main engine (or 主场 is fixed is a side Now is half-court exchanges the hosts and visitors field
- Gao?: Yes, like this can be fairer Except this point, this did also aims at online to make the improvement, basically did not feel has the time delay The network was allowed to use master league to the war pattern competition in the troop
- Reporter: Plays the troop which family raises also to be allowed to use?
- Gao?: Is Before ordinary is unable to the war in to use, from now on will want mutually unifies master league and network
- Reporter: Also has other improvements about the network?
- Gao?: The ball out-of-bounds and enters the ball time, has the information strip prompt The information needs beforehand to register
- Reporter: How do the multi- people play
- Gao?: On a machine may 2 cooperations carry on the game May carry on 2 pairs through the network 2 to fight
- Reporter: Has called the very good friend in the home plays the family through the network and same 2 to fight (smiles) 2 pairs of 2 special-purpose competitions to develop?
- Gao?: Now had not decided under that, very wants to attempt
- Reporter: Operates has the new change?
- Gao?: Does not need according to R2 also to be allowed to change 向侧 runs (or side step moves aside) Other operations all with first do same Plays oneself to have very sweeping change We always hoped ball point of descent computation more precise, the player appears some is clumsy The key is a point of descent computation more precise speech, possibly kicks a more splendid ball, in the biography precision also with the change, a side player responded needs to play the family manually controlled, must grasp the position and the opportunity.
Therefore, such adjustment needs own operation, will feel plays is more free, has the tense feeling
- Reporter: Very good 诶 When the match passes on, the player no longer pursues the ball to run
- Gao?: This aspect operation some changes Before when passes on, presses the block key player on toward to leave the point of descent near place to run then breaks through In this does has already not been suitable Must own positioning
- Reporter: Upper air ball processing changed difficultly
- Gao?: Feared (smiled)
- Reporter: The winning eleven shovel breaks the dribbling all equally very much to attract the person, I think the programmer certainly very diligently in the adjustment?
- Gao?: This is firmly, we are transcribing a careful movement This first supplements is a pair one rocks (movement which hits), the hit, and so on the body contacts when movement Designs these movements actually to have the difficulty, is capacity 2,3 times which the ordinary biography kicks The development group interior also often cracks a joke adds to rock the movement to be inferior to Canadian 3 pass a ball the movement (to smile)
- Reporter: (Smiled) the biography to kick the movement also to change many
- Gao?: Kicks a ball about the biography, this does pays great attention to operational instep passing a ball to kick from the pressed key must spend the about for 1/5 second The ball can spread immediately under foot speech This did on increases in this kind of place has been operational
- Reporter: Shot also to change many
- Gao?: In this does shoots to be able to appear outdoes the gate bar the situation In the actual competition this kind shoots flies hits the high situation many In therefore this makes the subject which shoots to modify for shoots flies (smiles) later to be able to supplement the control to shoot Holds down the R2 savings to shoot the ball which the strength measuring tank projects, 无论多少 is away from all may all be able to kick 99 or the ability excessively high player also has the possibility with this skillful speech strength to kick flies
- Reporter: In the special capability increased middle shoot (middle distance to shoot)
- Gao?: Is Did not turn around to shoot to change easily Does not have the star class also to be allowed to achieve does not turn around to shoot Runs shoots to the relatively static ball, the ordinary player can display 4 to 5 tenths might, but if has middle shoot this special capability the player can display 8 to 9 tenths might If has dash dribble (quickly to run dribbling) this special capability player not to turn around to shoot to be able to have 4 tenths accuracies
- Reporter: This characteristic is ball whereabouts *** (falls ちる - me not to be able to find out any correct view, but also must suit soccer)
- Gao?: Is
- Reporter: The middle distance shot to change terroristly has pinched
- Gao?: Calculated has the special capability, is entangled by opposite party player is very difficult not to turn around to shoot, defensive time needs to pay attention to this point
- Reporter: Other?
- Gao?: East also has not not be to be new east, has shoots the strength outstanding this characteristic player Does not turn around to shoot time possibly shoots
Sephiroth333
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Ich hab nach den ersten zwei Sätzen aufgehört zu lesen. Das kommt ja einer schriftlichen Vergewaltigung gleich. :zahnlücke