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Forza Motorsport 2

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Dan Greenwalt von Turn10 über die Lizenz-Problematik mit Autoherstellern - ist wirklich interessant, muss aber bei einer Zusammenarbeit unendlich nervig sein:

"Unfortunately, different manufacturers have radically different hang-ups. Also, the hang-ups are not proportional to the real-world prestige of the brand or its importance to the Forza franchise. I'm not going to name names, but I will rant a little bit.

One American manufacturer will allow damage all day, but is adamant about cars not rolling over. We have several other manufacturers that will only allow roll-overs if all of the others agree first – hellofa Catch 22. One of our European marks can't be used in PR materials as solo, winning or losing. It must always be pictured with other cars and dead even with them. Another European brand will allow painting and decals, but we can’t allow players to put “thunder” on the side of the car. I’m not even sure what that means. I assumed it meant lightning, but when I asked that specific question, the representative was very insistent: “no thunder”.

We have brands that charge ridiculous fees and make pretty "meh" cars. We got very popular brands that make awesome cars and charge next to nothing. Some brands are dead set against DLC. Other brands are willing to sponsor DLC.

There is a huge difference in how thorough each brand is when approving the car renders. On version 1, we accidentally submitted a car render from one Japanese manufacturer to its rival as one of their own cars… and they actually approved it as their car.

As you’d expect, these licenses are usually a lawyer to lawyer affair, but sometimes I get involved so we can escalate the matter higher up in the company. Some brands control other brands. Some brands hire outside licensing companies. Other brands have a licensing division within their legal or marketing departments. Sometimes different regions of a brand control the licensing, but usually it’s at a corporate level.

We have one European manufacturer that allows damage and rolling over, but is fairly unreasonable about upgrades and painting - core features to Forza. Truth is, I've spent 80% of my licensing time with just this brand. All that, and we still only got the licenses signed for half of the cars that we built from that brand. And yes, that means we spent months building cars that will never make see the light of day. I had to do back flips just to keep the small group of their cars that I felt were critical – we even got Peter Moore involved with this brand to help us pitch a higher level of partnership.

In the end, it’s all about building a partnership – which takes time. The key is to show them that we have passion for their brand and will defend it. It helps that we make a simulator – they know our goal is to achieve reality and celebrate their brand in a franchise, not use their brand to sell a quick product."

(...)

"For Forza Motorsport 2, we now have fully customizable Lamborghini, BMW Motorsport and the McLaren road cars on top of Ferrari and Porsche. Yep, McLaren F1 road car. By the way, customization is generally much more difficult than damage from a licensing perspective. That's not to say that damage is easy.

Don’t read too much into the fact that BMW is called BMW Motorsport. It has to do with the way licensing is submitted/approved for that brand. The E46 coupe, E46 GTR and E36 coupe are all production road cars.

In v1, we couldn't drop bumpers. Now, we drop bumpers, mirrors, and rear wings. We pour smoke from the engine, break more glass, crumple more body panels and to a greater extent. Also, we now support race ending performance damage. By building partnerships, we continue to push the bar for the whole genre.

I should reiterate, race cars and production cars are completely different beasts. It is relatively easy to license extensive damage including roll-overs, fire and doors flying off on race cars (i.e. NASCAR, F1, WRC, SCCA, FIA, IMSA, SuperGT... you name it). Licensed production cars and “car lust” are core to the Forza franchise vision.

One final note… Visual damage and visual customization double the production time for our 300+ cars. If we didn't think those features were important to the simulation experience and the Forza franchise vision, we could have done more cars."
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-> zufällig gefunden im NeoGAF
 
Das Spiel sieht grafisch mittlerweile imo sehr nett aus, auch wenn die Autos einfach nicht so gut wie in der GTHD-Demo aussehen (dürfte u.a. an den Felgen liegen, die bei Forza 2 bei schneller Drehung nicht mehr komplett ausmodelliert sind).

Beim zweiten Bild ist übrigens noch ein Bug beim 2D-Schatten zu sehen, deshalb sieht das Auto fast aus wie reinkopiert. Außerdem wurde da noch ein alter, etwas kleinwüchsiger Dummy-Fahrer verwendet. *g*
 
Forza 2: Aktualisierte Fahrzeugliste

Folgende 90 europäischen Fabrikate samt Modellbaujahr wurden bisher offiziell bestätigt:

2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
1984 Ferrari GTO
2004 Ferrari F430
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
1987 Ferrari F40
1995 Ferrari F50
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
2006 Maserati GranSport
2004 Maserati MC12
2003 Porsche Boxster S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
2006 Porsche Cayman S
2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1970 Porsche 914/6
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1955 Porsche 550 Spyder
2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
2000 Audi S4
2004 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2006 Audi RS 4
2004 Bentley Continental GT
1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
2005 BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe
2002 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
2007 Jaguar XK Coupe
1993 Jaguar XJ220
1961 Jaguar E-type S1
2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
2003 Lotus Elise 135R
2005 Lotus Elise 111S
2005 Lotus Exige
2005 Lotus Exige Espionage
1989 Lotus Carlton
2005 Lotus Exige Cup 240
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
1997 McLaren F1 GT
2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
2005 Mercedes SLR
1998 Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2003 MINI Cooper-S
2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
1999 Pagani Zonda C12
2007 Peugeot 207 RC
2004 Peugeot 206 RC
2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
2005 SEAT Cupra GT Prototype
2001 TVR Tuscan S
2001 TVR Tuscan R
2005 TVR Sagaris
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
2004 Volkswagen Beetle
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
2003 Volkswagen Bora VR6
2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
2004 Volvo S60 R

Inzwischen hat Microsoft auch eine Liste mit 50 amerikanischen Modellen veröffentlicht:

2002 Acura RSX Type-S
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2006 Acura RL A-Spec
2005 Acura NSX
1997 Acura NSX
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
1998 Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
1968 Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2003 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
1969 Dodge Charger R/T-SE
2003 Ford Focus SVT
2006 Ford Focus ST
2005 Ford Mustang GT
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford Ford GT
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
2003 Lexus IS300
2002 Lexus SC430
2006 Lexus IS350
2005 Panoz Esperante GTLM
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Pontiac GTO
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
2000 Saleen S281
2006 Saleen S281 E
2004 Saleen S7
2006 Saturn ION Red Line
2005 Scion tC
2007 Shelby GT500
1999 Shelby Series 1
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C

Komplettiert werden soll die Liste durch drei weitere Updates am 23. März (asiatische Fabrikate), 5. April (Tuner & Aftermarket-Modelle) sowie 19. April (Rennklasse-Modelle).

Quelle: http://www.4players.de/4players.php/spielinfonews/360/8177/63214/Forza_Motorsport_2.html
 
grafisch wirds von woche zu woche besser. könnte noch etwas AA vertragen, ich nehms aber auch so. gefällt mir wirklich sehr.:)
 
nachdem ich nun gesehen hab das auch PD grafisch nur mit wasser kocht und von den grandiosen karossen ingame nicht alzuviel rüberkommt würde mir so eine optik hier wirklich mehr als reichen..
 
Der letzte Screen sieht sehr, sehr geil aus - heftig, wie sehr das Lighting offenbar von Strecke zu Strecke variiert.

Sind beide aus dem Fotomode, Che Chou dazu:
chespace schrieb:
I paused the game mid-dorifto and took the photo for the Top Secret S15 shot.

I paused a replay and took the photo for the Exige vs. Porsche 914/6 shot.

Both of them are real-time and done with photo mode, then uploaded to FM.net.
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Ach ja:

Marktplatz-Demo kommt im April!

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Ab dem 15.05.2007 heisst es weltweit "Gentlemen, start your Engines" und Forza Motorsport 2 legt einen Boxenstopp bei den Spielehändlern dieser Welt ein. Wer nicht die Katze im Kofferraum kaufen möchte hat mit großer Wahrscheinlichkeit noch diesen April die Möglichkeit, mit einer Demo vom Xbox Live Marktplatz eine erste Proberunde zu drehen. Und wer wissen möchte, ob sein persönlicher Traumwagen mit dabei ist, wirft einen Blick in die über 200 Autos umfassende Fahrzeugliste.

Folgende 236 Fahrzeuge wurden von Microsoft bereits für Forza Motorsport bestätigt:

Acura Integra Type-R (2001)
Acura NSX (1997)
Acura NSX (2005)
Acura RL A-Spec (2006)
Acura RSX Type-S (2002)
Acura VIS Racing Integra Type-R (2000)
Aston Martin DB9 Coupé (2005)
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (2001)
Audi AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4 (2000)
Audi RS4 (2006)
Audi RS6 (2003)
Audi S4 (2000)
Audi S4 (2004)
Audi TT Coupé 3.2 quattro (2004)
Bentley Continental GT (2004)
BMW Motorsport M3 E36 (1997)
BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupé (2005)
BMW Motorsport M3-GTR (2002)
Buick Regal GNX (1987)
Cadillac CTS-V (2004)
Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS (2002)
Chevrolet Camaro SS (2002)
Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupé (1969)
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (1969)
Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454 (1970)
Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupé (2005)
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport (1996)
Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition (2003)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427 (1967)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2002)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2006)
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (1970)
Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 Corvette (2002)
Chrysler Crossfire SRT6 (2006)
Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo (1998)
Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept (2005)
Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S (1968)
Chrysler PT Cruiser GT (2004)
Dodge Charger R/T-SE (1969)
Dodge Charger SRT8 (2006)
Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT (2000)
Dodge SRT4 (2003)
Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo (1996)
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (2003)
Dodge Viper GTS ACR (1999)
Dodge Viper SRT10 (2003)
Ferrari 250 GTO (1964)
Ferrari 330 P4 (1967)
Ferrari 360 Modena (1999)
Ferrari 512 TR (1991)
Ferrari 575M Maranello (2002)
Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (2005)
Ferrari Challenge Stradale (2003)
Ferrari Dino 246 GT (1969)
Ferrari Enzo Ferrari (2002)
Ferrari F355 Berlinetta (1994)
Ferrari F355 Challenge (1998)
Ferrari F40 (1987)
Ferrari F430 (2004)
Ferrari F50 (19959
Ferrari GTO (1984)
Ford Focus ST (2006)
Ford Focus SVT (2003)
Ford FocusSport SVT Focus (2003)
Ford Ford GT (2005)
Ford GT40 MkII (1966)
Ford Mustang Boss 429 (1970)
Ford Mustang Cobra R (2000)
Ford Mustang GT (2005)
Honda Aerogear Integra Type-R (2000)
Honda Civic 1.5 VTi (1994)
Honda Civic Si Coupé (1999)
Honda Civic Type-R (2004)
Honda CR-X Del Sol SiR (1995)
Honda CR-X SiR (1991)
Honda Do-Luck NSX (1994)
Honda Integra Type-R (2000)
Honda Integra Type-R (2002)
Honda Mugen Civic Type-R (2004)
Honda Mugen Integra Type-R (2002)
Honda Mugen S2000 (2003)
Honda NSX-R (1992)
Honda NSX-R (2005)
Honda NSX-R GT (2005)
Honda Prelude SiR (2000)
Honda S2000 (2003)
Honda Wings West Civic Si (2004)
Hyundai Tuscani Elisa (2003)
Infiniti G35 Coupé (2003)
Jaguar E-type S1 (1961)
Jaguar XJ220 (1993)
Jaguar XK Coupe (2007)
Koenigsegg CC8S (2002)
Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV (1988)
Lamborghini Diablo GTR (1999)
Lamborghini Diablo SV (1997)
Lamborghini Gallardo (2005)
Lamborghini Murcielago (2005)
Lancia Delta Integrale EVO (1992)
Lancia Stratos HF Stradale (1974)
Lexus Foose Design IS430 Project Car (2003)
Lexus IS300 (2003)
Lexus IS350 (2006)
Lexus SC430 (2002)
Lotus Carlton (1989)
Lotus Elan Sprint (1972)
Lotus Elise 111S (2005)
Lotus Elise 135R (2003)
Lotus Esprit V8 (2002)
Lotus Exige (2005)
Lotus Exige Cup 240 (2005)
Lotus Exige Espionage (2005)
Maserati GranSport (2006)
Maserati MC12 (2004)
Mazda Axela Sport 23S (2005)
Mazda INGS RX-7 (1995)
Mazda Mazdaspeed Familia (2001)
Mazda Mazdaspeed Roadster (2001)
Mazda RE-Amemiya RX-7 (1995)
Mazda RX-7 (1997)
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A (2002)
Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed (2004)
Mazda Savanna RX-7 (1990)
McLaren F1 GT (1971)
Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupé (1954)
Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK GTR (1998)
Mercedes C32 AMG (2004)
Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupé (2003)
Mercedes SLR (2005)
MINI Cooper-S (2003)
Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (1995)
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT (2006)
Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS (2003)
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R (1998)
Mitsubishi GTO (1997)
Mitsubishi HKS Time Attack Evolution (2006)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GT (2006)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR (1999)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME (2000)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR (2004)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR (2004)
Mitsubishi MINE`S CP9A Lancer Evolution VI (1999)
Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII (2003)
Nissan Fairlady Z (2003)
Nissan Fairlady Z 432 (1969)
Nissan Fairlady Z 432R (1969)
Nissan Fairlady Z Custom Edition (2003)
Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo (1994)
Nissan MINE`S R32 Skyline GT-R (1993)
Nissan MINE`S R34 Skyline GT-R (2002)
Nissan R390 (1998)
Nissan Silvia CLUB K`s (1992)
Nissan Silvia K`s (1996)
Nissan Silvia Spec-R (2000)
Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT (2003)
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec (1993)
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (2002)
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (2002)
Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34 (2002)
Nissan Top Secret D1-Spec S15 (2000)
Opel Speedster Turbo (2004)
Pagani Zonda C12 (1999)
Panoz Esperante GTLM (2005)
Peugeot 206 RC (2004)
Peugeot 207 RC (2007)
Peugeot 207 Super 2000 (2007)
Pontiac GTO (2004)
Pontiac GTO Hardtop (1968)
Pontiac Solstice (2006)
Porsche 550 Spyder (1955) (MK)
Porsche 911 Carrera RS (1973)
Porsche 911 GT2 (1995)
Porsche 911 GT3 - 996 - (2004
Porsche 911 GT3 - 997 - (2007)
Porsche 911 Turbo - 997 - (2007)
Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3 (1982)
Porsche 914/6 (1970)
Porsche 944 Turbo (1989)
Porsche 959 (1987)
Porsche Boxster S (2003)
Porsche Carrera GT (2003)
Porsche Cayman S (2006)
Proto Motors Spirra (2006)
Renault Sport Clio V6 RS (2003)
Saab 9-3 Aero (2002)
Saleen S281 (2000)
Saleen S281 E (2006)
Saleen S7 (2004)
Saturn ION Red Line (2006)
Scion tC (2005)
SEAT Cupra GT Prototype (2005)
SEAT Leon Cupra R (2003)
Shelby Cobra 427 S/C (1965) (MK)
Shelby GT500 (2007)
Shelby Mustang GT-500KR (1968)
Shelby Series 1 (1999)
Subaru Impreza 22B STi (1998)
Subaru Impreza S204 (2006)
Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004)
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2005)
Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT (2005)
Subaru Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b (1998)
Toyota 2000GT (1969) (NK, MK)
Toyota AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo (1998)
Toyota Altezza RS200 (2004)
Toyota APR Performance Celica GTS (2003)
Toyota Border MR2 Turbo T-bar (1995)
Toyota Celica SS-I (2003)
Toyota Do-Luck Supra (1992)
Toyota MR2 GT (1995)
Toyota MR-S (2002)
Toyota Soarer 430SCV (2002)
Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex (1985)
Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo (1992)
Toyota Supra RZ (1998)
Toyota Tom`s T020 MR2 (1995)
Toyota Tom`s W123 MR-S (2002)
Toyota Tom`s Z382 Soarer (2002)
Toyota Top Secret 0-300 Supra (1998)
Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 03 (1998)
Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 (1998)
Toyota VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar (1995)
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 (1998)
TVR Sagaris (2005)
TVR Tuscan R (2001)
TVR Tuscan S (2001)
Vauxhall Astra VXR (2006)
Vauxhall Monaro VXR (2005)
Vauxhall VX220 Turbo (2004)
Volkswagen Beetle (2004)
Volkswagen Bora VR6 (2003)
Volkswagen Corrado VR6 (1995)
Volkswagen Golf GTI (2006)
Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V Mk2 (1992)
Volkswagen Golf R32 (2003)
Volvo S60 R (2004) (MK)
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Zu wenig Modelle von BMW und Mercedes :(
 
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